Gardening in your apartment with IKEA

I did wonder if this was an advertorial. I mean, the products were all from IKEA. But still an interesting read.

Third week of grapes

First week of grapes

My grapes never learnt to climb, but one of them actually tried to sprout some grapes.

I was so shocked!

I had three bunches. Since this photo, there have been many ants. I lost 1 whole bunch and half to them/wind that keeps bashing my vulnerable grapes.

I should take an updated photo. The remaining grapes are growing well :)

Seeds in USA

During my trip to the USA, I had a fun time enjoying some lovely gardens, like the Ethel M (factory) cactus garden, the flora at Grand Canyon like the Banana Yucca, and even a supermarket nursery at California. I missed out on the Huntington Library gardens because I ran our rental car against the verb, thus exploding two tires at a go. Like Bobo says, life with me is never boring. I wanted to buy some seeds from the USA (probably only from Arizona and Nevada, nothing else will survive), but at USD2.79 a pack, I don't have that much money to burn, given my track record with growing plants from seed. I will be uploading some pics after I summon some energy to look through my photos.

Hey Gardening Noob 2 - [自给自足 种植法] How to transplant?

Frösche Tanzen

Am Bali hat Bobo mich ein Windspiel gekauft. Es hat viele Frösche, welchen in Wind tanzen. Goldig, genau?

Aber die Schnur mit dem großen frosche riss. So ich benutzt meine Leimpistole um die Schnur zu reparieren. Der Leim hat jetzt getrocknet, ich kann das Windspiel hängen.

My Service Balcony Garten

I bought these little hot pink and purple Bygel containers from Ikea. Only cost S$0.90 each and comes with drainage holes, which were a tad too big. So I had to line the bottoms with netting to stop the soil from coming out when I water the plants. Great for hanging off window ledges and grille.

I think I might buy more, I am a little disappointed they don't come in blue. But I did see white ones. 

Rare Sight - Flowers blooming at the same time

It's rare for the flowers in my planter to bloom at the same time. But what is bizarre is that there seems to be two camps of flowers. I think I will try to get another flower into the space. What was upsetting is that someone stole one of my S$2 Daiso wind vanes, that used to occupy the space. So lame.

Lantana, Blue Daze and dunno what is that yellow flower...

Sour Grapes II - Wreath Making

As mentioned earlier, I was going to make some wreaths using the grapevines from Mutters garten. Actually wreaths have a negative connotation in Singapore because the Chinese used to send wreaths to funerals (they have now evolved to floral arrangements). But I wanted to make some like the ones I bought from Salzburg and Munich. So first thing I did when I got home was to soak the vines in water to make them more pliable. I toyed with the idea of stripping the bark off first, but decided it was too difficult and I would do that after I had dried the wreath. 

Unwinding Mutter's wreath

Mutter had wound some of the vines so I had to unwind them to smaller, tighter shapes. I did not have enough vines to make big wreaths, and I didn't want to waste a lot of flowers on a bigger wreath. So in the end, I ended up with 4 wreaths. Should have wound two of them together to make a wider one.

Rewound wreaths

So I hung them up to dry for at least a month. I bought a glue gun from the neighborhood hardware shop (they sold them cheaper than Art Friends), and when Bär went to Bangkok recently, he asked me what did I want as a souvenir. I said I wanted cheap flowers.

Bär's flowers

The lovely guy got me some flowers (too bad they were not very good quality), and some balls to go on the wreath (I thought this was an excellent idea). I sat down last Saturday to try out my new glue gun. After practising on shoe repair, I started to try sticking the flowers on the wreath. I had scrapped off the dried bark off it beforehand. 

I wound white ribbon around the wreath and snipped off the flowers before sticking them onto the wreath

Because I had been repairing my shoe, I decided to sit crosslegged on the floor while putting everything on spread newspapers, instead of working at a table. I was almost halfway done, when I accidentally dripped some hot glue on my ankle. The heat was so intense, that I grabbed the tip of the gun with my left hand. WTF seriously. And then I scalded my thumb and fingers really badly. The joke was that the pain on my ankle wasn't that bad, and I wasn't even scalded there. But now I scalded my fingers so badly that boils appeared!!!

OUCH!

I started crying because the boils became very hot. I decided to burst the boils because the heat inside the boil was killing me. Don't do that, it will make the wound worse and cause infection. It's been seven days since, and my left middle finger is still very badly injured, and looks AWFUL. 

Completed wreath

It was nearly impossible to complete doing the wreath. I had been planning to make 4, in the end, I winced through finishing the one I was working on. The pain was so not worth the effort. Sigh...

Materials needed:
Glue gun
Newspapers
Ribbon (to wind around the wreath)
Dried/ Fake flowers

I finally got a caterpillar to morph...

Mr Bear was disgusted with my interest in caterpillars. He felt that I was being unnecessarily cruel to them because I kept trying to keep them. Actually I wanted to keep them so that they would morph into butterflies and pollinate my garden. It is a long flight to reach where I live. So far I have encountered some moths in my garden, and one giant butterfly (which was rather scary). While I rushed in to get my camera, it disappeared. Such a waste.

So far, I had 3 failures in rearing caterpillars. There were the two which I picked up from my new herb from the nursery. They were eaten by the cunning birds that live upstairs (they also have a very annoying taste for portulaca and enjoy lining their nests with my lime leaves). Then there was the one that fell on Bär's backpack. It died of starvation. It was then I realised that pennywort is inedible.

Two weeks ago, while coming back from a very trying meeting, I came across a caterpillar dangling from the roof of a shelter. So I picked it up, against the disgruntled shrieks of my team and carried it back to the Büro. This time I also remembered to pick up a leaf. 

The caterpillar ate around the leaf and "died" overnight. I forgot to bring it home to feed it sweet potato leaves. Well it just stopped moving the next day, even though there were still a lot of leaf left. I was like oops. Maybe it was thirsty (ok I am stupid), and dripped some water in. It started moving a bit. So I thought ok, let's bring it home. 

The cocoon after the moth has emerged

The next morning, I woke up to find the caterpillar inside a brown cocoon. I was ecstatic to say the least, because it was practically expediting my desire to have a pollinating butterfly. Well, what happened was that seven days later, during the worst of the haze, it emerged from its cocoon to reveal a moth...

Talk about anticlimatic. Oh well, I was glad I got to take a photo. After that, I wandered off to have dinner, sure that it would not be able to escape the apartment, because we had closed all the windows due to the haze. I was sure that it would pollinate the flowers in my balcony. 

The moth. Looks like one of the common species. Disappointing.

I hadn't seen it since. Hopefully it didn't get eaten by the lizards....

お母さん Mini Rose

お母さん gave me a mini yellow rose cutting. It has faded to a nice white, and I have now cut the plant a few inches from the flower to make a new cutting. Wish me luck in having 2 mini rose plants!

<u>Updated!!!</u>
Not sure what I did, but after I snipped off the top part of the rose, the bottom part of the rose plant died... wtf... Now I am praying the upper half (which bottom has been soaked in water) will survive.

I didn't throw away the bottom part of the rose, since the stem was still green. Now new leaves have sprouted. I guess it went into shock when I cut it. The top half still hasn't grown new roots yet.

Organic Sources of Nutrients

from Stuart Robertson's "Tips on Container Gardening"

Alfalfa meal (nitrogen)
Blood meal (nitrogen)
Bone meal (phosphor)
Cottonseed meal (nitrogen)
Crab meal (nitrogen)
Egg shells (calcium)
Feather meal (nitrogen)
Fish meal (nitrogen)
Fish bone meal (phosphor)
Granite dust (potassium)
Gypsum (calcium, sulphur)
Hoof meal (nitrogen)
Kelp (potassium)
Limestone (calcium, magnesium)
Manure (nitrogen, phosphor)
Rock phosphate (phosphor)
Shrimp meal (nitrogen)
Soybean meal (nitrogen)
Woodash (potassium)

Have you taken your N, P, P today? Seriously, where can one find some of these more exotic nutrients?

Hey Gardening Noob 1 - [自给自足 种植法] How to grow herbs

Hey Gardening Noob - Reading Chinese Horiculture Books

I am reading horiculture books voriciously, specifically those on edible container gardens. While I am expending into perenial flowers in the L-shape nowadays (for a bit of color), my preference is still vegetables and fruits.

I started borrowing horiculture books in Chinese last Monday, having exhausted the usual English ones. I liked the DK series. But I get a bit of the green eye when I read about the gardens in temperate countries, because I live in the supposedly zone 10-11 (USDA), and I don't have a lovely garden that gets lots of sun. Instead I get a long corridor which gets the morning sun at an angle and a bit of balcony, which gets the afternoon sun at an even worse angle.

Most of these Chinese books are translated from Japanese. So far the one I am reading <<自给自足 种植法>> which teaches how to cook with ingredients from your edible container garden. It describes how to water your seeds and seedlings (which I have come to recognise as very important, after killing massive numbers of tomato seedlings).

Before sowing:
Before sowing your seeds and seedlings, you must water the soil. The seeds will form little hairs (?), which require moisture to grow. After sowing, you should water gently to prevent seeds from being washed off. Thereafter water once only after germination. This is the same for seedlings, as they grow better with moisture.

Watering the entire container of soil:
Herb and vegetable roots not only absorb moisture, but oxygen at the same time. So if you water a little every day, wetting only the soil surface, but the rest of the soil is hardened, the root system cannot absorb oxygen (did not know that). So when the soil appears dry, you should water enough so that the water wil drain from the bottom of the container. The soil under the surface should be wetter so when you water the plant, the older air and water can be passed out and the root system can absorb new oxygen.

You should not water the leaves, but all the soil around the roots.

Limes

I think the limes are getting a bit heavy, with the strong winds blowing through the corridor, the crazy shaking of the branches are causing the leaves to drop. On top of that there was the stupid birds that like to steal the leaves for their nests. That's why I have to secure the plants with double layer netting. The first netting had holes too big so the birds still tore bits out of the leaves with their beaks. So I had to apply a smaller netting.

 <u>Updated!!!</u>

I harvested 3 times this week (I harvested a few more several weeks ago). So far only 1 baby lime is still growing, which is quite disappointing. Well, at least this means that the plant is still healthy.  Bobo advises me to grow the seeds from this crop and grow new lime plants.

Emergence of Edamame pods

I love to eat edamame so when Mutters friend grew them in their garten, I asked for some pods to start them off in my own garden.

I was given a few pods which I ate up... and had to ask for two more. As instructed, I sunned them really hard, before growing them. Only two succeeded, tiny twisty twiney things that climbed up my balcony and pole (in the L-shape).  One died later, after I forgot to water for days. That was very regrettable, because it started having flowers already, so it actually needed more water. I was set back for quite a while, because the one outside the apartment did not get as much sunlight so took a much longer time to climb and grow. 

And for a while, Mutter and I were debating over whether the pods were actually edamame or another plant which blue flowers were used for coloring in Peranakan cakes. Thankfully I was proven right, because finally the other plant started sprouting tiny pretty purple flowers.

Then I became worried and wondered if I needed to pollinate the damn things.

I am pleased to announce... I don't have to. This week I was very excited to discover that the edamame pods have finally started growing.

Now it's a question of when they become big enough to be harvested. I shall try very hard to restrain myself from eating them. Instead, I will use this harvest for seeds. Too bad edamame is an annual plant. Sigh. I think I will have to wait like bloody months again... before I can get a bumper crop from my new growth.

Gardens by the Bay

I have been very busy at Arbeit, so have been mostly inactive online. However I am running out of space in my SD card so I am forced to update... sigh.

A few weeks ago I went with meine Kollegen to Gardens by the Bay. Had a lot of fun with the camera there. I am toying with the idea of buying the polaroid camera on sale for SGD99 at Challenger, but I am such a tight pussy. I think it would be wiser to splurge on a long-distance lens for my camera than to buy the polaroid. After all, it can be such a waste of $ especially when you take photos of people like Bobo who like to pull stupid faces at the camera and the polaroids themselves are deadly expensive. S$15.50 for a box of 10!?

Easter 2013 Blooms

My Chrysanthemums are going on a protest by refusing to bloom. I suspect that they are suffering from blight. My principal crops are grapes and tomatoes ( I have a few fledgling plants), especially the former after I did "mulching" with egg shells. Shielding the soil from the crazy ass sun has helped encourage the growth of baby grape leaves. I am very hopeful that they will do better and climb up the ladder of success.

In the meantime, here are the rest of my flowers. I realize that all my flowers are really tiny, especially the cuphea. Hardly the sea of color I was going for, though my Anagallis has subsequently given me 7 blue flowers one morning (but I am too lazy to take a photo because it will require me to transfer the SD card in and out of the camera. zzz)

As for my other portulaca variety (the one that is edible- I realized that after seeing beak-shaped damage on the leaves, I had thought the birds were going for the aphids), I have taken to transplanting some in the kitchen balcony, in my office and among the aloe veras in the L-shape. I dare those birds to get at the portulaca among the poky veras!

Cuphea

Portulaca - can you see my neighbors' clothes hanging in the backdrop? :D

Anagillis, Lantana and Turnera Ulmifolia

Sour Grapes

We went to play at Mutter's garten on Saturday. Her grapevine sprouted three grapes, same like last week she said. So she gave me the grapes. I went home to try the grapes. They were deadly SOUR!!

I didn't eat them but bit into them so that I can get the seeds for regrowth. I realized now that the grapes were not ripe. I am concentrating on grape growing because I like to eat grapes and I like that I can use grapevines to make wreaths, like the one I bought from Germany.

"A"ing coffee grounds from my Kollege

Today Mr Bear came back from his other office. Hadn't seen him in a while, so we had a lovely chat about our gardening efforts. He and Ms Bear are very into gardening in the office, and I started to move some plants there to stamp out the insect population in my home garten. 

I offered him some saltwater taffy which I got from my reddit snack exchange parcel, and he showed me this coffee grounds he got from Dr Cafe Coffee. He apparently went to two outlets and scored all their free coffee grounds. 

He told me that this was very useful for vegetables, because vegetables love slightly acidic soil. He also advised against dumping them on baby seedlings, because they would burn. He said that for himself, he likes to add a thick layer of coffee grounds for the bigger plants. 

Best of all, Mr Bear gave me the bag of coffee grounds. However he said I must use it within 7 days of him getting it from the shop, as advised on the packaging.

Coming home, I googled what edible plants flourish with acidic soil. According to gardeningweb, it seems that coffee grounds have a PH of 6.9 (almost neutral), because most of the acid is already boiled out of the ground coffee while brewing.

As a general guide, these are the vegetables and fruits that do well in acidic soil (even well down to pH 5.5):
Celery
Collards
Corn
Cucumbers
Eggplant
Endive
Kale
Onions
Parsley
Parsnips
Peppers
Potatoes
Pumpkins
Sweet potatoes
Turnips 

Tomatoes (more than PH 6) 

Strawberries

Blueberries

Limes (don't grow together with blueberries).

Peace Lily

I was at the zoo a while back and chanced upon this lovely lady standing by herself in a dress of green.

What Bobo got from the internet

On the same day that I received my reddit present, Bobo showed me the stuff he bought off the internet. He had shopped at this Dunecraft which sells gardening products in a very scientific representation.

The box on the left contain seed bombs, which you supposedly throw anywhere and herbs will eventually emerge. Good luck especially since my herbs are dying from the heat (so am I). The middle box is a coffee house, which you can grow your coffee plants. Bobo was annoyed when he realized that it would take three years for any bloody coffee beans to appear.

The third box is a special chili plant called Trindad Scorpion Pepper which supposedly has1.4M shu. I interpret that as it is very spicy. Finally on the right is the Dinosaur plant, which according to the box can live for a super long time. Don't water it, it will shrink back into a ball.

So far, only Bobo had tried the Dinosaur, which hasn't done anything outstanding like grow an actual dinosaur. Snorez.

My Flower Bed

I was outside mourning the death of my baby tomato plant. I think it suffered from nermatodes (and lack of watering), based on the little swollen bits on the roots. I think that pot of soil is jinxed. Every plant that was transplanted there has died horrible deaths. Let me see, potato (though that was more because I didn't know I was supposed to hill the soil), then the chilli, and now the tomato. I also realized that it was dumb of me to separate the tomato plants. Cluster f*ck was the way to go if I wanted to pollinate multiple flowers at a go.

Well, part of the learning process. But as I was sourly saying to the lady next door, if I were a farmer, I would have starved to death already. So many weeks and my other tomato plant only yielded one tomato which is taking forever to ripen. My edible garden is not working out too great.

On the other hand, my lantana and Anagallis are doing pretty well. Thank god, because there was one day I didn't water (I am switching to a two day water once habit, unfortunately with the heat nowadays I sometimes need to water at least once a day, especially for the sweet potato leaves), and I hadn't watered the day before, so everything drooped. Lost the tomato plant because of that...

I wanted to do a container bed arrangement, but everything looks a bit sparse huh? I think I need to fertilize them somewhat to get them to bloom better. 

A ladder to climb on

I have a ladder from the double decker bed left by the previous owner. We threw the bed away but I kept the ladder, ostensibly to refurbish it as a towel hanger. Instead it languished in the storeroom as I couldn't bear the thought of using a towel that was hung on a rung that used to be stepped on by strange feet. 

So it was an easy idea to move it out to the garden, where I could have my grape plants and Anagallis climb all over the rungs.

Climbing the ladder to sunshine...

I have to admit that my garden is getting on my nerves because it is not aesthetically pleasing enough.  This is the reason why I started growing flowers to have a bit of color. I also understand now why did my former neighbor chose to stick fake flowers among her greenery.

I chose loads of clay pots to hold my plants, which is a displeasing but uniform dull yellow. I am toying with the idea of painting either the pots or the garden furniture. But my smaller plastic pots are such a pain to paint. How about bright yellow for my ladder? 

Flowers in the gardens

I visited Mutter's garten a few weeks ago and wandered with her around the other gardens, while she asked for cuttings from the neighbors. I took some fotos of the pretty flowers I saw...

Can you identify what some of these flowers are?

Anyway the water lily came from the retired teacher's garten. He has another sprawling garden, which was devoted to cucumbers...

They didn't last very long

One day while watering my oregano, I couldn't help but notice that there was something long and dangling off a fragile stem. Wtf... a giant black caterpillar. zzz. I toyed with the idea of feeding them to those evil birds outside the apartment, but decided that they didn't any more encouragement to hang around my place. 

Besides I was intrigued by the idea of owning my own butterfly. So I decided to keep him in a jar. I poked loads of holes in the paper before I used it as a lid for the insect jar. I fed him sweet potato leaves, since oregano is more precious to me. Surprisingly the caterpillar showed no prejudice towards yellowing leaves, chowing down with no problems (that also answered the question on why the oregano looked a bit naked on one side of the pot).

Guess my surprise when I found another caterpillar on the oregano the next day... Smaller with a white strip down its black back (the one in the foto above). So into the insect jar it went with loads of sweet potato leaves. They chowed them down really quickly. 

I was looking forward to having them build cocoons, when one Saturday morning, I heard the glass shatter. I put it on the makeshift wooden crate, but it wasn't that unstable to fall over for no reason. When I went out, both caterpillars were gone. It wasn't even a windy morning. As I stood there pondering, I realized that the bloody birds did it...(these were the same crazy birds that kept attacking the lime plants, and when I surrounded them with bird nets in a see through fortress, resorted to attacking my orchid leaves).

Couldn't blame them. There wasn't a more filling breakfast than 2 fat caterpillars.

Nasturtiums vs Pennywort

I am still trying to develop an edible garden. Let me see: I have 2 lime plants, 2 grape plants, 1 chilli plant, 5 sweet potato leaves, 2 bean plants, 1 oregano, 4 tomato (only 1 has tomato - 1), loads of aloe vera etc. Other inedible plants: portulaca, lantana, chrysanthemum (not the tea making kind, sigh) and blue pimpernel.

However I have more or less stopped buying plants after failed attempts to get nasturtium seeds or plants. But I kinda remembered that nasturtiums have circular leaves, which were edible (so were the flowers).

So what happened was that I was at NTUC(supermarket branch which has its own nursery section) walking around when I saw plants with circular leaves.  Nasturtiums!!! They were only S$1.90 a pot, so I bought 2. Now that I was diversifying my risks a bit (as in isolate my plants from insects by having some in the office), I brought one to the office.

Mr Bear pointed out that they weren't nasturtiums. But I insisted that the stems and leaves looked really edible. So I ran "circular leaves" on google and found ... pennywort, also known as duckweed. Semi-aquatic... edible plant :D

Great for salads. Yum yum! I am toying with the idea of steamed pennywort and sweet potato leaves with some oyster sauce.

Vertical Gardens

I am researching on vertical garden designs because I am seriously running out of space on the balcony window. The egg shells, chilli plant, bean seedling, tomato seedlings. A lot of indoor gardeners rely on natural light from their flourescent lamps to grow their plants indoor. I personally think that flourescent lamps are really fugly, but I think the above idea is not bad, especially because it can double up as a room divider and provide additional lighting in a room. Not sure about the sustainability of the insect population though.

Stare what stare?!

This cat was hanging around the plants at Mutter's teacher friend's garten. She was browsing every plant, as if seeking breakfast. She was not very happy to see me stalking her.

Making my own tomato seeds

I was reading You Grow Girl, which was basically a collection of gardening advice and tips from yougrowgirl.com. The one tip that arrested my attention was how to make your own tomato seeds from eh.. tomatoes?

So what I did was to scrape off the pulp as much as possible off the seeds and dump them into water. I soaked the seeds for 3 days, pouring off the water and flotsam everyday before replenishing with new water. At the end of three days, all the seeds at the bottom of the jar were the viable seeds.

I dried them on a plate. However B仔 told me that there were a lot of fruit flies flying around the seeds. Frustrated (and thinking the seeds were no longer viable), I threw the whole lot into a peat pot... Guessing what?

I had 11 seedlings. Ok, 4 died so far, but at least we know that this method works!

A Growing "Picture"

Art Friends had this frame + canvas offer last year. I bought three, but didn't use any of the frames to surround my completed paintings. I think one of them became the duckie I sent to Germany for Tante H, another became the Mr Bear. So I had them hanging around, taking up space. I wanted to recycle them for decorative purposes but wasn't sure what to.

I suddenly had an idea. Why not put a little flower pot on each of the frame so it looks like I am framing a growing flower. I tried to find rectangular pots so that I can fit it perfectly on the frame, with nothing protruding. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find any, so I bought little flower pots instead.

What you need is the following:
A leftover wooden frame, a little flower pot, 2 screws, acrylic paint, sandpaper (realized belatedly, as you can see, it was missing from the foto below) and portulaca. 

First I measured the distance between 2 of the drainage holes, then used a rule to find the middle of one inner side, 9.5cm, so I measured 1.1cm from the middle, and then I tested screwing the screws into the wood, so that I would have an easier time later when I screw the flower pot on.

So I painted the frame a metallic blue, the painted the flowerpot a hot pink. Had a hard time making the color stay, then realized that I should have sandpapered the surface. You'd think I remember after all that nightmare painting of the chandelier. 

Then I screwed the little pot onto the wood, and then put a little bit of the gingham cloth to filter the drainage holes. I put in some of the remaining peat and plucked a bit of my portulaca to fit into the pot. That's when I realized the other portulaca variety I had had been attacked by aphids. Sh*t. I was wondering why it was doing poorly, and now I know. I have a little bit of it left in another pot, so probably will transplant it into the pot when I chuck out the old plant, aphids, soil and all. Sigh.

My heart is broken

I hadn't posted in a while because my new camera had a lens error (which made me very sad) and while I was at work on Monday, my little town experienced strong winds so much so that my little sunflower seedlings which I had been cultivating, bent over in defeat.

I put them outside in the L-shape because they get better sunlight there. Unfortunately when the chilli plant was thrown out, there was no more natural wind break standing in front of the smaller plants in the corridor. So they were extremely vulnerable to the insane sudden wind.

Depressing is not sad enough a word to describe how I feel. Especially since it had been bloody hot in Singapore since last week, and I was totally feeling it because our air-con went kaput.

 

Blumen @ Mittenwald, Deutschland

I have been borrowing books on container gardens, and was vaguely confused but impressed on why so many different types of plants were arranged into a pot, sort of like a ever growing arrangement. How in the world do they know how to water them, esp since different plants have different watering needs?

Then I recalled this foto I took in Mittenwald while travelling around the Füssen area. Mittenwald used to be a place where violin makers congregated for their art. There was a giant wooden violin sculpture to commemorate this.

I don't know what flower this was, but it's really pretty isn't it? It's a close-up on the container flowers.

Sunflower in the Bathroom

I bought this window mosaic kit a long time ago when the art shop at Harborfront was having its closing down sale. So one day while enjoying my favorite Korean drama (sobs! it ended!), I started sticking everything together. Luckily I kept the original sticky sheet that stuck the mosaic pad, so when I was done, I just covered it over the tiles, to make sure nothing drops out. 

When I was done, I stuck it to the bathroom wall. Not bad right?